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28 November 2007 15:29 Reply (Quote this message)
its on baby - im cashin in my savings and starting a pension - which is freeing up some cash.

if everyone agrees with the budget options spit listed im goin to go with most of them -

AS in the processor, ram and mobo. Vista home premium


as for Gcards i fancy getting BFG GFORCE 8800gt 0c2 as listed for £200 or this currently out of stock everywhere Zotac Geforce 700mhz bad boy, there is one by the same company for £30 cheaper on play.com altho a little slower - is it worth saving the cash and getting one a tiny bit slower?


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ASUS P5B = QuickFind Code: 113965 £60.74 Inc. VAT

Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 = QuickFind Code: 121407 £75.85 Inc. VAT ( I have mine @ 3.2Ghz on standard cooling & it is super fast )

OCZ 2GB Kit (2x1GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 CL 4-4-4-15 PLATINUM XTC quickfind code: 116755 = £64.05 inc VAT ( don't skimp on the ram mate as it makes a major difference to O/C performance . ( My ram is hitting 1420 Mhz on stock voltage )


I'm gunna pick up a different power unit still 700w as teh one Spit listed is no longer stocked..

Also most of the price has shaved off £5-£10 here and there


Like I said before Ive just got to wait for my paperwork to turn up and 10days later I should have my cash - so i may even start ordering during the next week.

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You can start a new thread if you want Shag ;-)

The updated 8800GTS 640 might be better though, it should be out in a couple of weeks.

when you think it'll be out Craig - I dont really wont to spend alot more than £200 on gfx card so any other cards you think are worth iot give me a shout



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28 November 2007 15:42 Reply (Quote this message)
I heard Early December, it's the 65nm version of the 8800GTS but it also have more stream processors so it should be closer to the speed of an 8800GTX but not much more cash than the 8800GT.

You won't have bought anything by then anyway so just keep an eye out for reviews in the net couple of weeks.



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28 November 2007 19:31 Reply (Quote this message)
The E4300 is bob on shag, I have one and is way fast, dont get the ocz mem, it has compatibility issues with that mobo.



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28 November 2007 19:43 Reply (Quote this message)
I personally would not get a E4300/E4500, they have half the cache of a Conroe Core2 CPU, pay with 30 quid extra and get an E6550 at least the extra cache is worth it.



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28 November 2007 20:29 Reply (Quote this message)
Aye, i would get yourself one of the E6x50's. Ive got an E6750 and its pretty sexy (and very cheap)


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28 November 2007 20:42 Reply (Quote this message)
GTS v2 delayed

Still should be available before you're ready to buy, so keep an eye out.



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28 November 2007 20:44 Reply (Quote this message)
Crazy not to get a Q6600 imo.


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28 November 2007 20:45  Edited by shagnastie on 28-Nov-07 at 20:46 Reply (Quote this message)
you think itll be around the #200 mark? Manis GFX card that is



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29 November 2007 19:46 Reply (Quote this message)
Quick review of the updated 8800GTS - you'll be able to spot it as it has 512mb of ram, not 320 or 640.

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1234/1/page_1_introduction/index.html



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25 December 2007 17:03 Reply (Quote this message)
some nice sales poppin up online - im goin to be buyin my parts in the next week or so - my bro just said to buy a discounted pc from somewhere like hP pc or any of the other sites and add the gfx card I want..

there seems to be some half decent deals with monitors included. Its Xmas day so not expectin to many replies im guessin some of the other site wont start there sale until boxin day.



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25 December 2007 17:20 Reply (Quote this message)
very bad idea to go for a prebuild rig, you always get crappy memory, and powersupplies.



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26 December 2007 00:51 Reply (Quote this message)
yeah, pre-built stuff is generally bad in many respects not to mention the monitor will be some shit refresh thing


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26 December 2007 15:26  Edited by Spitfire on 27-Dec-07 at 19:28 Reply (Quote this message)
Shags , don't use OCZ ram on the Asus - its not compatible (I still cringe at giving Shane the nod on that Ram ), I have an XFX 650i Ultra ( which is an excellent Mobo which is compatible with OCZ ) ,& an a Inno3D 8800GT Overclock @ £182 delivered & its a top notch card running at 702/1674/2000MHz with 24 month warranty !
My rig will hit close to 12000 3DMark 06 Benchie which is fast mate when one considers the cost of the rig & its being cooled by stock components.
Bottom line is this mate you wont really see much difference between the high end 8800's or even the Core 2 Duos once they hit 3 GHz + unless you bench the machine mate so to see a noticable difference you would need to look at SLI/Crossfire or dual GPU set-ups .



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27 December 2007 03:22 Reply (Quote this message)
shame argos dont sell parts i got £200 in vouchers from there as part of an xmas bonus



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27 December 2007 21:01 Reply (Quote this message)
**** sli, double the cash for at best 50 percent extra performance, and most of the time no increase what so ever. Not to mention the fact you have four monitor outputs but can only use one. Biggest waste of cash in the pc gaming arena to be honest.

Crossfire may be better I cannot tell you as I have not used it.


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27 December 2007 23:41 Reply (Quote this message)
Ryan mate you are tainted by the 7800GXT experiment you once embarked upon .
50% + performance = 47 vs 32 FPS in Crysis & if your total outlay for say 2x 8800GT 256Mb = £234 well I know what I would do ...



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27 December 2007 23:44  Edited by Stan on 27-Dec-07 at 23:46 Reply (Quote this message)
Thats still double the price for at best 50 percent performance, not to mention all those people with multiple monitor setups that will only be able to use one.

I like the idea in theory, but its just so badly implemented its a joke.
When they get up to at least 70 percent performance increase and let you use all 4 dvi outputs, I will give it another go, but until then they can suck my big salty Christmas balls !


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28 December 2007 02:14 Reply (Quote this message)
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Thats still double the price for at best 50 percent performance, not to mention all those people with multiple monitor setups that will only be able to use one.

I like the idea in theory, but its just so badly implemented its a joke.
When they get up to at least 70 percent performance increase and let you use all 4 dvi outputs, I will give it another go, but until then they can suck my big salty Christmas balls !

It's hardly badly implemented, the extra boost depends on the game, not entirely on nVidia or the hardware... it works pretty much how dual cores work. Having quad cores doesn't mean you'll get 4x the performance, it doesn't work like that and I'm sure you know why. Some games have MASSIVE boosts, some small, some not at all. SLi performance is improved with each patch to most games... it's probably not a priority on release as few people have it.

Anyway, the multiple monitor thing really isn't anything to worry about as you're only restricted to one monitor when SLi is activated. All you have to do is go to the control panel, switch SLi off and you other monitor will pop back on. Turn it on and the monitor will turn off. You don't have to reboot.

SLi has come a long way since you last tried it. I'm not saying it's worth the money... it's a waste of money, pretty much like every single piece of PC hardware out there. At the end of the day, if you don't want to waste your money, PC gaming is the wrong hobby to choose



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28 December 2007 03:07  Edited by Stan on 28-Dec-07 at 04:11 Reply (Quote this message)
Thats kinda my point though Ralinn, the boost depends on the game, with most games being badly optimized shite, hence you are lucky to get 50 percent extra.

Also most people would find it very annoying having to turn sli on and off, and then forgetting to turn it back on for games. Plus allot of people game in one window and have irc or msn or even maybe porn in the other.

The cpu comparison isn't really fair though, as you are not paying double for a dual or even quad core, its like a ten quid difference at most for most of the chips. Not to mention dual or quad cores are faster in allot of programs not just games.

Sure if you are slightly insane and you have the cash and don't care its a huge waste of cash based on erratic performance. If you are the sort of person who spends a fortune on overclocking hardware for that extra 100mhz, then sli is for you. But I personally feel it just ain't right for most pc gamers.


Oh I also ain't sure I agree with spits statement that you don't see the difference with the higher end kit, it all depends on what res you are running. If you run everything at 1024 by 768 then no you wont see jackshit difference as everything will run well. However if you have a 24 inch tft and you are running at 1920 by 1200 as lets be honest allot of gamers are today, you sure are shit will notice the difference.


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