black box? orange box? Episode 2??? there was n episode 1? :S i think i've missed a lot.

LOL. Basically the Black Box is for most gamers, and the Orange Box is for people who've never played Episode One and need to catch up.

EA ? when did they get involved? this game is starting to be a Duke nuke farce.

So orange have both Epo1 n 2?

Yes and the original hl2

What wrong with EA? I have HL2 - i dont want it again

arg! *trys to pick up a rock to frow at EA, but relises its too big and cant pick it up, so he searches for another*

Pathetic. It doesn't take this long to make an episode. This is why I hate episodic content... now they can take all the time they want and we won't see anything different from them.

haha it's because it contains Team Fortress 2. That came is never ever gonna come out! I've been waiting about 7 years for it.

lol scrappy so true

The real story is because they are recoding the games for the Xbox 360 and PS3, so us with a PC have to wait for the consoles games to be finished so they can release them on as many formats as poss !!!!!

most likely the case

Finaly a good responce

Now, Guna have to get my hands on Epo1

I saw a trailer for portal long ago, it did look rather awsome.

And, while i may be mocked (im a former CS player, went to WCG2003 korea blah blah) i never complted hl2, not even touched episode 1 .

Wonder how it would play on the 360.

I think this will be a good few hours play, episode 1 wasnt that long I think the big deal is team fortress 2 and this will be a massive online game to replace CS:S. I hope so,I am really struggling for a decent online game at the moment 2142 is dead NS is horrible, i resorted to UT 2004 last night and got seriously battered

I have every shooter for the 360 and still dont like using a joypad to aim with , although there are reviews and news items about the gismo that lets you plug your mouse and keyboard into the 360 i cant find somehwere to actually buy one still
until then ill leave the serious gaming to the PC

That single thing could make or break the ps3 if the ps3 master mouse and keyboard and the 360 doesnt that will be dire.
the source engine and a 360 should be a winning combination

is this dx 10 btw ?

not that i know of

If they're going to take this long between episodes i'd rather they just focus on HL3

team fortress 2 is made with a new engine so i expect hl3 will not be far behind valve keeps a lot more under its hat than it used to

hope this is better than ep1, which was rubbish imo

I loved it

Slow start tho

Team Fortress 2 still uses the Source Engine. It just has a different art style...

AFAIK, Valve wouldn't be able to make Ep2 DX10 as they'd have to give the entire engine a major going over I'd bet.

BTW, I really hope neither the PS3 or 360 get a keyboard and mouse

thats being sadistic ralinn!!!!

some kind of pc fan boy?

ralinn is about as anti pc as you can get !

Um, nope, I just want consoles to remain consoles, and PC's to remain PC's. If I were anti PC, I would have spent as much as I have on this hardware and games

Having or not having a keyboard doesnt define a console/PC. The only thing the keyboard will be used for is writing messages etc, and the only thing the mouse will be used for is shooting games (with the keyboard for movement obviously).

I in no way see this as a bad thing, or how it would make a console not a console, thats just plain silly boy!

My last post: wouldn't*

I find playing my consoles relaxing. It's a total change from the PC. When I play the PC it feels like work, I'm sat at a desk and it feels just crap. I don't want that with a console, I just wanna kick my feet up and enjoy a good game. I'll never attach a keyboard and mouse to one, it just destroys the whole object for me.

I agree with ralinn. Leave the mouse and keyboard to the PC. I've always felt console games are just for a right mess around, PC's more serious with the death and killing.

Apparently they're adding dual core support... that might be a reason for the delay. I heard that's not easy.

TF2 is made with a new engine. team fortress anounced this on planetfortress/tf2 in an interview

When Robin Walker, Yahn Bernier and John Cook -- who are some of the leaders on the development team -- first started going toward the path they wanted to with Team Fortress 2, toward the game that they wanted to make once they'd defined it, it became clear that the Half-Life technology base was going to be pretty limiting. It has been said 'on the record' that there's a new internally-built engine , and TF2 will use that.

I dont think tf2 will be dx10, Ive heard rumours that ep2 is.

as for the keyboard and mouse on a 360 its too late! I tracked down and ordered one yesterday HERE Ill let you know if it works
but if you search Utube there are already videos of it working on GoW and other shooters its call the XFPS.
Ive seen pictures of a prototype microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse that is is speculated will work with a 360 ill get pics they are very G15 and G7 just all grey, quite cool.

taht interview is ANCIENT and the engine they are talking about is Source

DOH! no date on them comments stilll i still wanna know if hl2 ep2 can handle dx10