This just sounds like one person haveing a bad day / not knowing what they're doing to me.. only 91 people have taken notice. Unless it's just come online that petition ? cba to check tbh

lol I signed, took me 40 seconds to do

I agree with Mani, this is a time EA don't need to be slated.. there's nothing wrong really.

I am the person who wrote the petition. I would not call writing it something that could be attributed to a "bad" day, just something I would really like to see worked on. With all the patches that have come out not one has been properly aimed towards the server end of the spectrum. As for not knowing what Im doing, let me just say so far I have gone through 4 server providers, all of which tell me that the game at its core is flawed. I have finally found a provider I like, they do a really great job but they to tell me the game is really lacking when it comes to server stability.

Plus I dont need them telling me that to see there is a problem. When basic promised features such as VOIP and Battle Recorder are so much of a headache to get working right I dont feel as a consumer that I should be made to try and work around problems they didnt fix. Im not the only one either, ever try downloading a BR file? More then half of the servers with BR on dont even work(half is generous

Did he get cut off mid-rant? I would of liked to see it all, but just one point your profile name is Sam Sanchez but the petition says it is written by Shaun Mishler !! if you are him then that means you signed up with a fake name, so how meny of the 91 are you?

I happen to know both HotButter and Shaun Mishler, and know that they have collaborated on drafting the petition. Let's lay off the accusations of "misrepresentation," shall we?

Why can't we all just .... get along!

Yeah I did get cut off....grrr. But yeah 'Mish' and I worked on that petition. He fround it to his liking and spread it around some.

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tbh I got the voip and Battlerecorder working within an hour, granted the docs aint great and I'm an experienced sys admin anyway, but it ain't that bad at all.

Sorry for that then
I guess when it comes down to it, the server is a free app that EA give away, and only a few thousend ppl use (admin/ set-up) where as the in game probles are experienced by 50-60 thousend+, so there is no insentive for EA to fix any problems just for a few admins how cant get it working.
As Hotbutter said he has gone through sa few server providers, I dont pretend to know who this works but if they rent BF2 servers then shouldnt they know how to set them up, as this is there job/ buisness, if so is it not the server providers falut?

I am the one that submitted the petition that HotButter wrote. BF2 server stability is definitely an issue that needs to be corrected. I have been through 4 BF2 server providers and with all four of them the servers would crash. Now I will say that some of the providers used inadequate hardware but the majority of the problems were from BF2. When a server on average crashes every other day then there is obvious problems that need to be addressed with the core game.

It's not out of the ordinary though Mish, most mp games have servers that aren't exactly solid. While I don't disagree with siging a petition to ask for a more stable executable, I don't think these issues are at all out of the ordinary in the PC gaming world. We should thik ourselves lucky with BF2 really, we get more publisher payed for servers than probably any other PC fps and let's face it, pretty good support. We'd all like faster patches I know, but these things take time.

It'll take time to patch if it needs it, like Craig said.. and no offence, but out of the god knows how many millions of copies they sold.. I don't think 171 signatures will make much of a difference to how fast they are patching problems that many many people won't even know or care about.

I am not expecting that this will generate thousands of signatures over night but you do see how it is increasing everyday. I was actually approached to do this petition by two of the bigger ranked server providers. They did not want to start something like this for fear that EA would pull their ranking ability but you better bet that they have signed it and are spreading the word about it. The providers are just as upset about these stability issues as we the players are. The talk is that a few providers will stop offering ranked BF2 servers because they are so frustrated with the lack of support from EA.

It's all interesting anyway.

1.2 patch in maybe as little as a few days, you never know, that might help a lot.

The patch is the reason I was approached to do this. The providers are upset because there is no mention of server stability improvements or VOIP. They all have numerous requests in to EA on these issues which have appeared to be ignored.

There's a point that seems to go unmentioned here, and that is this: Whether EA "gave a free program" away or not is irrelevant. If you release a product, support it - that's just good business sense, esp. when coupled with the fact that the "free program" is required for other, non-EA users, to create servers that - wait for it - can make MORE money for EA! Why, then, is there little-to-no support for yet another EA money-making product? Seems like leaving money on the table to me.

I dont see why it makes more money for EA?

If you're using the server software to run a ranked server, esp. one rented from EA - well, that rent is income, no? Nevermind the fact that every server available is another place for a new player to "join" up. Fact is, the more room that's created, the faster players will emerge to fill that space. Sure, there are a lot of empty servers out there. But people are still buying the game. Customer Support = More Sales. More Sales = More Profits. More Profits = More Investors. More Investors = More Money.

I did'nt know EA rented servers, I thorght that was muliplay,
I guess i can only see it from the point of a player, were if a server goes down, i just go on another one, i dont care that much.
If it as bad as you make out then I guess EA should sort it, but its also part the responsibility of the system admins, its only about 10 lines of code to re-boot the server at night (say 4pm when little or no peeps are on), and they should be able to figer the Voip/BR out (with it been there job and all, esp if your paying for the service).

I think that's part of the point, Re0sLess... there's not much in the way of resources provided for SysAdmins to turn to when things don't go as they should. I hear ya on the "layer's point of view" thing, tho.