Can anybody suggest a relatively cheap and good joystick for me to purchase? As I am sick of using my keboard to "try" and pilot planes

cyborges are good and cheep. just make sure it has a rudder controll.

What's rudder control? Give me a link to a good one

cyborge rumble stick

rudder control is so u can twist the handel and it acts as your rudder. if youve been flying with a mouse and keyboard. i dont know if you have ever used the rudders. if u get a joystick you will.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Joysticks.html

I got the second one down the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. It rocks with more buttons that u can shake a stick at. Also got the cool twist thing which is essential for flyign a chopper/plane.

My Cyborg 3d Gold is about 5 years old and does everything it needs too, with about 12 buttons :/
I dont think they make them anymore though

I am planning to be buying the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Joystick sounds good and would improve my performance greatley, I hope

i also have the cyborg 3d gold. its great but one problem. i broke the trigger on it. im thinkin about walkin over to the store and picking up a new one. and sadly they dont make the 3d gold anymore.

How did u break the trigger? I leave mine on the floor and it gets kicked about all over the place but it takes it

go on Ebay, get a Microsoft Force Feedback Pro (the original) they are about £10 on there, and the best joystick i've used.. I paid £150 for it about 5 years ago and used it ever since with no problems

I'm gonna go down PC World and try a few cheap ones out. Time to resurrect my pilotting career.

i've got that logitech one, it#s prety good. i dud used to like the old ms FF one, but only borrowed it at the time as they weren't cheap!

hehe I spent £300 in one day when I got my joystick.. I brought the MS FF Joystick and the MS FF Steeringwheel. I used the Steeringwheel for about a week and got bored of playing Colin Mcrae with it ho hum.

LOL. well i was playing desert combat and was flying a little bird. and just strafing like crazy. and aa started firing and i pulled a litle to hard and it snapped in half. it still works tho. just half a trigger.

the littlebirds in DC owned bigtime, strafing runs with those was so fun. I also liked that little town map with the blackhawks on the island and you had to fly in to the town.. I used to get in the littlebirds and drop people off blackhawkdown styleeee.

They so should have left those in BF2

aggreed midnight. the litle bird would rock. i loved them. i hope they do bring them in to bf2. theres alot of stuff from dc that should be added to bf2.